I think [atheists] are in the same position as the gay movement was in a few decades ago. There was a need for people to come out. The more people who came out, the more people had courage to come out. I think that's the case with atheists. They are more numerous than anybody realizes.Dawkins does have a point. People are often scared to say they are atheists, or considering atheism, because they don't want to potentially offend believers. My wife and my father have both said to me separately that I shouldn't make jokes about religion on stage. And I've noticed that people do get uncomfortable when I mock religion, even if they theyselves don't believe in it. It's effectively taboo to talk about belief in nothing. Why is that?
Consider this my outing. Now I'm off to go wax my butt and get a facial.
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Hello Bob,
Here's another spin on the wheel of life...
Analyzing the Creator Debate
Did you ever consider that atheism arose because certain people saw that religious characterizations about the nature of an omnipotent "God" were seriously flawed and then concluded that religion and the Creator were the same things? This is the exact same conclusion at the base of religious beliefs; namely that the Creator and religion are inseparable. Consequently, both atheists and religious followers are arguing over a flawed assumption without considering that other possibilities negate the common core conclusion of both groups. These arguments are actually over religion and whether it represents a reliable model of reality. The answer to that question is of course not. Religion is not only flawed, it is purposely deceptive! Though atheists are certainly sincere in their conclusions, the fact remains that they and religious followers are locked in a debate that cannot be won by either side because both base their positions upon whether the same flawed premise is the truth. In order for this debate to conclude with a truthful answer, a greater level of discernment is required.
One apt clarifying question is, if someone tells lies about you, does that negate you or make you a liar or a lie? Certainly, the image cast about you would be a false one, but that is their image, not the real you. Consequently, faulty religious assertions about the Creator of this universe do not negate the existence of a Creator. Considering the possibility that this universe is not by chance leaves the door open to how it arose, which leads us to seek what could have created and maintained it. Since neither religion nor science has yet adequately answered that question, it is safe to conclude that those who argue about the Creator based on either are most certainly wrong on one or more aspects. Thereby, another point of view and additional knowledge are required.
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You need to go see Borat or at least read this review: http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/02/review.borat/index.html
The athiests and the gay movement do have similarities...including the fact that most Christian religions demonize both. If a Christian marries a non-believer, they are supposedly condemning themselves as well. I blame it on the bible!
I think all of us who are South Park fans fall firmly on the side of the cynic. Last weeks episode was brilliant with Cartmann being stuck in the future with the warring aetheist leagues.
With the millions of galaxies and billions of planets you have not even seen yet, it would seem incredibly arrogant and naive for anyone to assume they have a license to define the creator of the universe. But hey, that's just us fence-sitters talkin.... /lol
I love Bill Maher's occasional bit about religious people having an 'imaginary friend'. His show is probably the best political comedy on TV right now. It always helps to bring laughter into it, because if we take the wingnuts seriously, their heads swell to monstrous proportions.
::: cheers from sector six :::
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